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		<title>By: ju meixiang</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2002/11/12/the-first-day-of-school/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>ju meixiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2003 11:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree the opinion</description>
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		<title>By: ip address</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2002/11/12/the-first-day-of-school/comment-page-1/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>ip address</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2003 11:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please post more comments, I will visit this site again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please post more comments, I will visit this site again</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2002 09:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, katie--the kids really are terminally cute--loved the bobbing for apples pics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, katie&#8211;the kids really are terminally cute&#8211;loved the bobbing for apples pics.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie-ah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie-ah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To whoever anonymous is up there, I should still have some pics of the kids at the above mentioned website. They are the *cutest*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To whoever anonymous is up there, I should still have some pics of the kids at the above mentioned website. They are the *cutest*</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Nov 2002 11:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey--can you put up (even low-res?) pics of the kids? And, like Katie-ah says, keep the stories coming--great stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey&#8211;can you put up (even low-res?) pics of the kids? And, like Katie-ah says, keep the stories coming&#8211;great stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie-ah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie-ah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Nov 2002 10:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad to read something about my old students that I would have never been able to capture in words because of my lack of writing skills.

Mary was the one who pretty much gave me the title of Katie-ah. (do you-ah speak-ah the chinese-ah?) and Lily- man, that girl was something else.

So, I don&#039;t have anything really insightful to say, but please, keep the stories coming, because I&#039;m constantly pissed that I was never able to relay my thoughts and feelings about Harbin in a coherent manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad to read something about my old students that I would have never been able to capture in words because of my lack of writing skills.</p>
<p>Mary was the one who pretty much gave me the title of Katie-ah. (do you-ah speak-ah the chinese-ah?) and Lily- man, that girl was something else.</p>
<p>So, I don&#8217;t have anything really insightful to say, but please, keep the stories coming, because I&#8217;m constantly pissed that I was never able to relay my thoughts and feelings about Harbin in a coherent manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Mingji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mingji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 18:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan, your writing and story is awesome as always, I&#039;m always glad to read the next entry.   I think you&#039;ve captured a bit of childhood and teaching perfectly in your story.  I especially liked the story about Mary and her recitation of those animals :)  I hope all is going well over in Harbin and I hope you&#039;re eating some good food.

Derek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan, your writing and story is awesome as always, I&#8217;m always glad to read the next entry.   I think you&#8217;ve captured a bit of childhood and teaching perfectly in your story.  I especially liked the story about Mary and her recitation of those animals :)  I hope all is going well over in Harbin and I hope you&#8217;re eating some good food.</p>
<p>Derek</p>
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		<title>By: Micah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Micah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2002 15:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of things.

I taught two classes of first grade Chinese kids last year, and I enjoyed them ten times more than my fifth grade class.  It really takes different kinds of teachers, and since I enjoy games, crafts and, well, more crafts, first grade was just right for me.  I suppose it helps that my mom is a kindergarden teacher, too.

Also, regarding the differences in educational system.  First off, my school was the same as meggoddess describes above, the first grade students were still learning how to act in class (and that&#039;s a major part of every kindergarden/1st grade class), and by a few weeks into the year they were military in their observance of the rules.  I must say, the 1st grade teachers at CRIS school were incredible, they really had a good system of rewards and punishments down.  And when I say punishments, I mrean *punishments*.  But that&#039;s another story.

And along with the difference in behavior, I speak from personal experience when I say that regimenting kids like the military really does hurt their creativity.  I grew up in the public school system in Spain, which is closer to the Chinese system than the American: very strict teachers, a focus on memorization, and little creativity or critical thinking.  Sure, I&#039;m a very competent person, was top of my class in high school, and went to a nationally-known science university.  But I still feel at a disadvantage when it comes to thinking creatively, and critically analyzing and intepreting situations and data.  It wasn&#039;t something I learned early on.

This focus on authority also means that the students in China are well behaved under the watch of a strict teacher, but they try to get away with murder when nobody is around.  On the flip-side of the coin, American students may sass their teachers in class (not so much, really), but when they are left alone they will hold to the rules out of personal conviction.  At least, that has been my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of things.</p>
<p>I taught two classes of first grade Chinese kids last year, and I enjoyed them ten times more than my fifth grade class.  It really takes different kinds of teachers, and since I enjoy games, crafts and, well, more crafts, first grade was just right for me.  I suppose it helps that my mom is a kindergarden teacher, too.</p>
<p>Also, regarding the differences in educational system.  First off, my school was the same as meggoddess describes above, the first grade students were still learning how to act in class (and that&#8217;s a major part of every kindergarden/1st grade class), and by a few weeks into the year they were military in their observance of the rules.  I must say, the 1st grade teachers at CRIS school were incredible, they really had a good system of rewards and punishments down.  And when I say punishments, I mrean *punishments*.  But that&#8217;s another story.</p>
<p>And along with the difference in behavior, I speak from personal experience when I say that regimenting kids like the military really does hurt their creativity.  I grew up in the public school system in Spain, which is closer to the Chinese system than the American: very strict teachers, a focus on memorization, and little creativity or critical thinking.  Sure, I&#8217;m a very competent person, was top of my class in high school, and went to a nationally-known science university.  But I still feel at a disadvantage when it comes to thinking creatively, and critically analyzing and intepreting situations and data.  It wasn&#8217;t something I learned early on.</p>
<p>This focus on authority also means that the students in China are well behaved under the watch of a strict teacher, but they try to get away with murder when nobody is around.  On the flip-side of the coin, American students may sass their teachers in class (not so much, really), but when they are left alone they will hold to the rules out of personal conviction.  At least, that has been my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2002 18:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I started teaching in Changchun, I spoke *maybe* forty words of Chinese, and most of those weren&#039;t of any use in the classroom.  I found that they little kids treated me like I would have treated a Chinese substitute teacher who only spoke 40 words of English when I was six--that is, like hell.  At first, at least, until there was some sort of teacher-student thing going on.  By about six weeks in they were pretty good.

And they *always* behaved with their Chinese teacher present.  I don&#039;t know about that &quot;no-hitting&quot; policy, meggoddess, but it definately wasn&#039;t in effect in Changchun about a year ago.

Thinking about it, that was probably another reason the little kids acted so bad when I first started...  after a little while they knew I wouldn&#039;t hit them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I started teaching in Changchun, I spoke *maybe* forty words of Chinese, and most of those weren&#8217;t of any use in the classroom.  I found that they little kids treated me like I would have treated a Chinese substitute teacher who only spoke 40 words of English when I was six&#8211;that is, like hell.  At first, at least, until there was some sort of teacher-student thing going on.  By about six weeks in they were pretty good.</p>
<p>And they *always* behaved with their Chinese teacher present.  I don&#8217;t know about that &#8220;no-hitting&#8221; policy, meggoddess, but it definately wasn&#8217;t in effect in Changchun about a year ago.</p>
<p>Thinking about it, that was probably another reason the little kids acted so bad when I first started&#8230;  after a little while they knew I wouldn&#8217;t hit them.</p>
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		<title>By: meggoddess</title>
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		<dc:creator>meggoddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey

i&#039;m sure chinese school discipline isn&#039;t always as good as people say it is, but i went to first grade in beijing. let me tell you, it was a completely controlled atmosphere. you didn&#039;t move around in your seat unless it was time to go, or if you needed to stand up to answer a question. you had to sit through the whole day with your hands folded behind your back, feet together on the floor, back straight, head up, and eyes following the teacher where ever he or she went. and this is pretty hard for a first grader, as you well know. if you misbehaved, you got slapped (pretty hard, i might say) with a wooden ruler. they could discipline you however they felt fair.

i guess the way kids act now in school might have something to do with the non-hitting policy they&#039;ve adopted. and it&#039;s not like i liked being hit with a wooden ruler, but i learned more in that one year than i learned in both second and third grade in the states. after coming to america right as second grade began, i was the best student in class after one week, even though i hadn&#039;t spoken one word of english when i arrived.

so, not to sound overly prejudiced against the american school system, i think there&#039;s something to be said about the chinese system. both systems have their good points and bad. the american system is not very strict, but it allows more creativity and hands on learning. the chinese system is not very versatile when it comes to creativity, but it teaches students how to actually use their brains and learn the material. i know my younger cousin in china is a year ahead of me in material even though she&#039;s a year below me. of course there could be lurking variables, but if they could somehow combine the two systems, they&#039;d have something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey</p>
<p>i&#8217;m sure chinese school discipline isn&#8217;t always as good as people say it is, but i went to first grade in beijing. let me tell you, it was a completely controlled atmosphere. you didn&#8217;t move around in your seat unless it was time to go, or if you needed to stand up to answer a question. you had to sit through the whole day with your hands folded behind your back, feet together on the floor, back straight, head up, and eyes following the teacher where ever he or she went. and this is pretty hard for a first grader, as you well know. if you misbehaved, you got slapped (pretty hard, i might say) with a wooden ruler. they could discipline you however they felt fair.</p>
<p>i guess the way kids act now in school might have something to do with the non-hitting policy they&#8217;ve adopted. and it&#8217;s not like i liked being hit with a wooden ruler, but i learned more in that one year than i learned in both second and third grade in the states. after coming to america right as second grade began, i was the best student in class after one week, even though i hadn&#8217;t spoken one word of english when i arrived.</p>
<p>so, not to sound overly prejudiced against the american school system, i think there&#8217;s something to be said about the chinese system. both systems have their good points and bad. the american system is not very strict, but it allows more creativity and hands on learning. the chinese system is not very versatile when it comes to creativity, but it teaches students how to actually use their brains and learn the material. i know my younger cousin in china is a year ahead of me in material even though she&#8217;s a year below me. of course there could be lurking variables, but if they could somehow combine the two systems, they&#8217;d have something.</p>
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