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	<description>disoriented in the orient</description>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-502</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logon, to tell the truth I&#039;ve never even been to the States.  But I would say, don&#039;t worry too much about the language barrier, it&#039;s quite possible to get by even with no chinese (thousands of english teachers have done it before!) and if you put in the effort then you&#039;re bound to learn it faster here than you would in your home country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logon, to tell the truth I&#8217;ve never even been to the States.  But I would say, don&#8217;t worry too much about the language barrier, it&#8217;s quite possible to get by even with no chinese (thousands of english teachers have done it before!) and if you put in the effort then you&#8217;re bound to learn it faster here than you would in your home country.</p>
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		<title>By: Logan Egbert</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-501</link>
		<dc:creator>Logan Egbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2003 10:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im new to the whole China blog scene because of my interest and eventual hiring for next year at ZUCC. However after reading this and a few other entries (on this and other sites) about the learning curve for Chinese i am a bit frightened about the kind of language barrier i am going to face!

I was never naive, i knew Chinese was going to be tough. But i thought, hey i have learned German fluently...&quot;the third language comes quicker&quot; they say. Now, i just dont see that happening. I have a tutor, however i dont imagine he can bring me up to the level i need before i leave! Has anyone else gone this route? Or did you all know a fair amount of Chinese before leaving the States?
Anyways, enough whining! Any input would be helpful though.
Logan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im new to the whole China blog scene because of my interest and eventual hiring for next year at ZUCC. However after reading this and a few other entries (on this and other sites) about the learning curve for Chinese i am a bit frightened about the kind of language barrier i am going to face!</p>
<p>I was never naive, i knew Chinese was going to be tough. But i thought, hey i have learned German fluently&#8230;&#8221;the third language comes quicker&#8221; they say. Now, i just dont see that happening. I have a tutor, however i dont imagine he can bring me up to the level i need before i leave! Has anyone else gone this route? Or did you all know a fair amount of Chinese before leaving the States?<br />
Anyways, enough whining! Any input would be helpful though.<br />
Logan</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-500</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm,I love that song,too. I once had some chances to flip through these textbooks when I was tutoring American students back in Beida. But I didn&#039;t know they have such interesting stuff in there:)

BTW,I guess that DVD store deep inside Wei Xiu Yuan has survived all the tearing-down and construction projects. At least before I left Beijing,it was there.

I really missed all these cozy pubs outside the side east gate,though I have never been inside any of them physically. When I realised it&#039;d be time to be more &#039;cultured&#039;,they were all gone. It really stinks, as nothing more but knowing they were out there would make you feel happy and a bit previleged. These words being said, Beida is still way better off than UIC campus in terms of architecture style. The latter campus practically has not a single adorable landmark, just seemingly deserted gray buidlings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm,I love that song,too. I once had some chances to flip through these textbooks when I was tutoring American students back in Beida. But I didn&#8217;t know they have such interesting stuff in there:)</p>
<p>BTW,I guess that DVD store deep inside Wei Xiu Yuan has survived all the tearing-down and construction projects. At least before I left Beijing,it was there.</p>
<p>I really missed all these cozy pubs outside the side east gate,though I have never been inside any of them physically. When I realised it&#8217;d be time to be more &#8216;cultured&#8217;,they were all gone. It really stinks, as nothing more but knowing they were out there would make you feel happy and a bit previleged. These words being said, Beida is still way better off than UIC campus in terms of architecture style. The latter campus practically has not a single adorable landmark, just seemingly deserted gray buidlings.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-499</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy - a 4? I doubt that very much.
It was juat a placement test. It may have been adapted from something else, but anyway, it&#039;s not the HSK. By the standards of Beida&#039;s test, I&#039;m Advanced by the standards of the Duiwai Hanyu Zhongxin, which is to say that they think I&#039;d be able, after a semester of these classes, to do respectably on the HSK.

That&#039;s another thing I should&#039;ve specified -- these aren&#039;t real Beida classes; they&#039;re through the Duiwai Hanyu Zhongxin. So being in the highest level most assuredly doesn&#039;t mean that my Chinese is anywhere near a 4 on the State scale. Next semester I&#039;m planning to &#039;ru xi&#039; and take regular Beida classes - and &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; will be the real test!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy &#8211; a 4? I doubt that very much.<br />
It was juat a placement test. It may have been adapted from something else, but anyway, it&#8217;s not the HSK. By the standards of Beida&#8217;s test, I&#8217;m Advanced by the standards of the Duiwai Hanyu Zhongxin, which is to say that they think I&#8217;d be able, after a semester of these classes, to do respectably on the HSK.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s another thing I should&#8217;ve specified &#8212; these aren&#8217;t real Beida classes; they&#8217;re through the Duiwai Hanyu Zhongxin. So being in the highest level most assuredly doesn&#8217;t mean that my Chinese is anywhere near a 4 on the State scale. Next semester I&#8217;m planning to &#8216;ru xi&#8217; and take regular Beida classes &#8211; and <i>that</i> will be the real test!</p>
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		<title>By: Prince Roy</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-498</link>
		<dc:creator>Prince Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so I&#039;m confused--did you actually take the HSK or Beida&#039;s version of it.  I thought the HSK was only listening and reading comp?  Also, doesn&#039;t the HSK rank the testee on a number scale, like 1-6?  Anyway, congrats on whatever test it was you took.  Sounds like you&#039;re at least at a 4 on the State Department scale...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so I&#8217;m confused&#8211;did you actually take the HSK or Beida&#8217;s version of it.  I thought the HSK was only listening and reading comp?  Also, doesn&#8217;t the HSK rank the testee on a number scale, like 1-6?  Anyway, congrats on whatever test it was you took.  Sounds like you&#8217;re at least at a 4 on the State Department scale&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lu t</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>lu t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hehe, back in elementary school we had a little saying about rabbits too. we&#039;d say and act out the words when we get a bit cold during winters. it went something like this:
&#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#36339;&#19968;&#36339;,
&#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#36716;&#19968;&#36716;,
&#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#25720;&#25720;&#22320;,
&#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#28378;&#20986;&#21435;! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hehe, back in elementary school we had a little saying about rabbits too. we&#8217;d say and act out the words when we get a bit cold during winters. it went something like this:<br />
&#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#36339;&#19968;&#36339;,<br />
&#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#36716;&#19968;&#36716;,<br />
&#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#25720;&#25720;&#22320;,<br />
&#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#23567;&#30333;&#20820;, &#28378;&#20986;&#21435;! :D</p>
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		<title>By: yoshio</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>yoshio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damn... i love that song!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damn&#8230; i love that song!</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lu t, I love rhymes like that!  Did you ever use that one for jumping rope too?  It sounds very similar to a jump rope rhyme that somebody taught me, about a little bear instead of a little rabbit:

&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#25720;&#25720;&#22825;&#65292;
&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#25720;&#25720;&#22320;&#65292;
&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#36716;&#19968;&#36523;&#65292;
&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#28378;&#20986;&#21435;&#65281;

Do you remember any other rhymes from elementary school? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lu t, I love rhymes like that!  Did you ever use that one for jumping rope too?  It sounds very similar to a jump rope rhyme that somebody taught me, about a little bear instead of a little rabbit:</p>
<p>&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#25720;&#25720;&#22825;&#65292;<br />
&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#25720;&#25720;&#22320;&#65292;<br />
&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#36716;&#19968;&#36523;&#65292;<br />
&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#23567;&#29066;&#65292;&#28378;&#20986;&#21435;&#65281;</p>
<p>Do you remember any other rhymes from elementary school? :)</p>
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		<title>By: Kaiser</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should read to the end next time. Congrats are in order. Second highest class, eh? Wonderful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should read to the end next time. Congrats are in order. Second highest class, eh? Wonderful!</p>
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		<title>By: Kaiser</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/01/comparisons/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you ti&#039;d some serious pigu on the HSK, so don&#039;t beat yourself up worrying. You gonna do some writing for That&#039;s? Been in touch with them yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you ti&#8217;d some serious pigu on the HSK, so don&#8217;t beat yourself up worrying. You gonna do some writing for That&#8217;s? Been in touch with them yet?</p>
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