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		<title>By: politics</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/comment-page-1/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/comment-page-1/#comment-552</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 12:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not only pretty cool, it&#039;s VERY cool.

You&#039;re a lucky guy to be able to what you do, and I wish you the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not only pretty cool, it&#8217;s VERY cool.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a lucky guy to be able to what you do, and I wish you the best.</p>
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		<title>By: leowang</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>leowang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW : I want to start writing  my own blog in English in 2004 , i am 25 years old , is that too old for me to begin this adventure coz i know very little about computer , so anyone here can give me a hand ? thank you in advance .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW : I want to start writing  my own blog in English in 2004 , i am 25 years old , is that too old for me to begin this adventure coz i know very little about computer , so anyone here can give me a hand ? thank you in advance .</p>
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		<title>By: leowang</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>leowang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Jen

 I am very happy to see your reply , I am not a student but i was , I like the foreign teacher i had before , they are great teacher as well as great people , most of them came from a non-profit organisation called &#039;ELIC&quot;(I think in Chinese is &quot;&#32654;&#22269;&#33521;&#35821;&#23398;&#20250;&#8221; they arrange almost everything if anyone is qualified to come to china to be a ESL teacher , their website is WWW.ELIC.org. you can log on their website and might find something useful if you do make your decision , I personally know a officer from ELIC he is my good friend , he is from Ohio , He is the personnel officer who  is in charge of something related to the personnel stuff, and he has stayed in China for several years , and he is a real beaver  .i can tell you his eamil address if you feel necessary to talk some details with him , but i dont&#039; want to tell you here , can you drop me a mail if you do need , my email is &quot;wangwang108@sina.com,&quot;
  Now I Work only  my part time jobs in one of kind of middle city in China , i don&#039;t have full time job right now but i am looking forward to finding a job relate to English , i have taken a test called &quot; International Chinese teacher certificate &quot;( you probablyhaven&#039;t heared this test before &quot; but you may ask Kun or the people who write this blog they may know more about this test than me , coz i am taking this test just for fun .

  i am not pushing you to make your decision to come to China ,but i do want to tell you :China is a great place to live and to broaden your experience , it may change your life , but i still have one more suggestion for you :if you go to china to be a teacher , you &#039;d better choose a average city first i mean  not Beijing ,shanghai you know , they are all the same , like newyork london , etc . choose a small like the city  i live and work now ,  although it &#039;s small but it &#039;s still  very convenient , and the people their pace of  life usually are  slower than some big big cities ,besides it&#039;s more quiet !!  blue sky , in my city , i can smell the spring without stepping out my apartment , the foreign guest house most of my foreign teacher they live is a very old building i belive older than  my age . one thing all my foreign teacher they can&#039;t bear in China is &quot; every morning they have to hear the same &quot;melody &quot;over and over and again . so every coin has the two sides ( what a cliche :), you will definetely enjoy the hospitality of Chinese people but maybe you can&#039;t bear us sometimes , but that&#039;s life all about

ok that&#039;s all

again very nice to know you
i am looking forward to hearing from you .

sincerely

leowang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Jen</p>
<p> I am very happy to see your reply , I am not a student but i was , I like the foreign teacher i had before , they are great teacher as well as great people , most of them came from a non-profit organisation called &#8216;ELIC&#8221;(I think in Chinese is &#8220;&#32654;&#22269;&#33521;&#35821;&#23398;&#20250;&#8221; they arrange almost everything if anyone is qualified to come to china to be a ESL teacher , their website is <a href="http://WWW.ELIC.org" rel="nofollow">http://WWW.ELIC.org</a>. you can log on their website and might find something useful if you do make your decision , I personally know a officer from ELIC he is my good friend , he is from Ohio , He is the personnel officer who  is in charge of something related to the personnel stuff, and he has stayed in China for several years , and he is a real beaver  .i can tell you his eamil address if you feel necessary to talk some details with him , but i dont&#8217; want to tell you here , can you drop me a mail if you do need , my email is &#8220;wangwang108@sina.com,&#8221;<br />
  Now I Work only  my part time jobs in one of kind of middle city in China , i don&#8217;t have full time job right now but i am looking forward to finding a job relate to English , i have taken a test called &#8221; International Chinese teacher certificate &#8220;( you probablyhaven&#8217;t heared this test before &#8221; but you may ask Kun or the people who write this blog they may know more about this test than me , coz i am taking this test just for fun .</p>
<p>  i am not pushing you to make your decision to come to China ,but i do want to tell you :China is a great place to live and to broaden your experience , it may change your life , but i still have one more suggestion for you :if you go to china to be a teacher , you &#8216;d better choose a average city first i mean  not Beijing ,shanghai you know , they are all the same , like newyork london , etc . choose a small like the city  i live and work now ,  although it &#8216;s small but it &#8216;s still  very convenient , and the people their pace of  life usually are  slower than some big big cities ,besides it&#8217;s more quiet !!  blue sky , in my city , i can smell the spring without stepping out my apartment , the foreign guest house most of my foreign teacher they live is a very old building i belive older than  my age . one thing all my foreign teacher they can&#8217;t bear in China is &#8221; every morning they have to hear the same &#8220;melody &#8220;over and over and again . so every coin has the two sides ( what a cliche :), you will definetely enjoy the hospitality of Chinese people but maybe you can&#8217;t bear us sometimes , but that&#8217;s life all about</p>
<p>ok that&#8217;s all</p>
<p>again very nice to know you<br />
i am looking forward to hearing from you .</p>
<p>sincerely</p>
<p>leowang</p>
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		<title>By: 乌托邦 &#124; 感动中国</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/comment-page-1/#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>乌托邦 &#124; 感动中国</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;汗颜&lt;/strong&gt;

今天在网上看看外国人眼里的中国。发现汗颜~ 一个中文用得太纯熟了，赫赫《喜爱学中文的美国老外》。要是没有看到这句“我们三个美国男人都会讲中国话”，我还真不敢相信这是不是中�...</description>
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<p>今天在网上看看外国人眼里的中国。发现汗颜~ 一个中文用得太纯熟了，赫赫《喜爱学中文的美国老外》。要是没有看到这句“我们三个美国男人都会讲中国话”，我还真不敢相信这是不是中�&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Leowang,

Thanks for your comment.  I will take it all into consideration.  It&#039;s a lot to think about, that&#039;s for sure.  I would feel more confident if I knew more Chinese.  I don&#039;t know if I can really be of any help to Chinese people who are trying to learn English.  I would only do it if I thought I could help people.  For me, that&#039;s what it&#039;s all about.  Of course, I also long to see my friends in China, but I would only teach there if I thought I could make a difference.

Thanks for your kind wishes.  If I do come over, I will let you know.

What do you do?  Are you a student?  I&#039;d like to hear more about you.

Best Wishes,

Jen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Leowang,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  I will take it all into consideration.  It&#8217;s a lot to think about, that&#8217;s for sure.  I would feel more confident if I knew more Chinese.  I don&#8217;t know if I can really be of any help to Chinese people who are trying to learn English.  I would only do it if I thought I could help people.  For me, that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about.  Of course, I also long to see my friends in China, but I would only teach there if I thought I could make a difference.</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind wishes.  If I do come over, I will let you know.</p>
<p>What do you do?  Are you a student?  I&#8217;d like to hear more about you.</p>
<p>Best Wishes,</p>
<p>Jen</p>
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		<title>By: leowang</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/comment-page-1/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>leowang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Jen,
  nice to know :you want to come to China , welcome , you know what ? as soon as you get off the airplane , one thing is good to know is you are minority ,

  I am a Chinese ,what if i come to states to teach chinese ? that&#039;s a good idea? probably not , but you can do that here i mean mainland China , I will NOT doubt your wish to be a teacher in China ,but i have to tell you one thing : not every foreigners can be a good teacher here , i have a teacher he is a brit, he taught us one phrase &quot; as far as i am concerned .....&quot; in the whole morning , but that &#039;s insufferably fun to learn one thing from him he told us you can&#039;t say &quot;as far as i am concerned in the intonation of ....you have to say it in a falling -ring tone , is that deadly funny ?

   i &#039;d like to say something about teacher as a Chinese student here , if you cant&#039; be a good teacher ,pls go out to find another job , teacher is different from other jobs in the earth , you might influence a person &#039;s life by saying one sentence , maybe you don&#039;t even know that.

  anyway , in my opinon , I like the foreign teacher who is not only funny but also can represent his orher country and culture , and one thing is indispensible , that&#039;s Tolerance , coz you are minority , not in your own country , be tolerant doesn&#039;t mean you have to put up with everything ,you can be very strict ,but meanwhile getting along with people around you ,

anyway ,good luck  and welcome to China , it&#039;s  a beautiful country , i am sure you will enjoy being here

leowang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Jen,<br />
  nice to know :you want to come to China , welcome , you know what ? as soon as you get off the airplane , one thing is good to know is you are minority ,</p>
<p>  I am a Chinese ,what if i come to states to teach chinese ? that&#8217;s a good idea? probably not , but you can do that here i mean mainland China , I will NOT doubt your wish to be a teacher in China ,but i have to tell you one thing : not every foreigners can be a good teacher here , i have a teacher he is a brit, he taught us one phrase &#8221; as far as i am concerned &#8230;..&#8221; in the whole morning , but that &#8216;s insufferably fun to learn one thing from him he told us you can&#8217;t say &#8220;as far as i am concerned in the intonation of &#8230;.you have to say it in a falling -ring tone , is that deadly funny ?</p>
<p>   i &#8216;d like to say something about teacher as a Chinese student here , if you cant&#8217; be a good teacher ,pls go out to find another job , teacher is different from other jobs in the earth , you might influence a person &#8216;s life by saying one sentence , maybe you don&#8217;t even know that.</p>
<p>  anyway , in my opinon , I like the foreign teacher who is not only funny but also can represent his orher country and culture , and one thing is indispensible , that&#8217;s Tolerance , coz you are minority , not in your own country , be tolerant doesn&#8217;t mean you have to put up with everything ,you can be very strict ,but meanwhile getting along with people around you ,</p>
<p>anyway ,good luck  and welcome to China , it&#8217;s  a beautiful country , i am sure you will enjoy being here</p>
<p>leowang</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan,

Good job! Excellent writing!

I first discovered your site via a link from Andres Gentry&#039;s site; I wouldn&#039;t have found his site if I hadn&#039;t been searching the web for &quot;Gongxi facai&quot;.  I was trying to find the proper way to convey happy new year wishes in Chinese.  A friend from Sinapore had mentioned something like &quot;Gongxi facai&quot;, but I couldn&#039;t remember how to write it in pinyin, and I sure didn&#039;t know how to write it in Chinese characters.

Is this how the Chinese wish each other a happy new year?  If you would be so kind, please write it in pinyin with the right tones.  I cannot read Chinese characters.

I will not bore you with the long story now; mine is not nearly as interesting as yours.  I have a very good friend arriving (here in Houston) from Beijing tomorrow, and I would like to wish her a happy new year properly.  She is a native Chinese person, born somewhere in the province of He Nan.

I am a technical instructor and training coordinator of sorts at one of the well-known companies in the energy industry.  My job allows me to meet and work with people from China on a pretty regular basis.  My students have taught me a little Chinese and a little about the Chinese culture.  I have a lot of friends in China now and hope to venture there one day even if my company never sends me.  Some of my most recent students mentioned that I should move to China and teach English.  I said that I do not know Chinese well enough, and they said it doesn&#039;t matter.  They said I would have no trouble finding a job teaching English and that I would learn Chinese fast enough.  What do you think?  Is there any truth to what they have told me?

Do you have any advice and/or suggestions?  Thanks.  Keep up the good writing.  I have bookmarked your site and am looking forward to showing it to my friend from Beijing.  Good luck with your studies, and have fun!

P.S. Kun&#039;s site is also very good.  It reminds me of &quot;Good, good study; day, day up.&quot;  I used to know the pinyin by heart, but I can&#039;t quite recall it now.  That&#039;s my fault for not practicing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan,</p>
<p>Good job! Excellent writing!</p>
<p>I first discovered your site via a link from Andres Gentry&#8217;s site; I wouldn&#8217;t have found his site if I hadn&#8217;t been searching the web for &#8220;Gongxi facai&#8221;.  I was trying to find the proper way to convey happy new year wishes in Chinese.  A friend from Sinapore had mentioned something like &#8220;Gongxi facai&#8221;, but I couldn&#8217;t remember how to write it in pinyin, and I sure didn&#8217;t know how to write it in Chinese characters.</p>
<p>Is this how the Chinese wish each other a happy new year?  If you would be so kind, please write it in pinyin with the right tones.  I cannot read Chinese characters.</p>
<p>I will not bore you with the long story now; mine is not nearly as interesting as yours.  I have a very good friend arriving (here in Houston) from Beijing tomorrow, and I would like to wish her a happy new year properly.  She is a native Chinese person, born somewhere in the province of He Nan.</p>
<p>I am a technical instructor and training coordinator of sorts at one of the well-known companies in the energy industry.  My job allows me to meet and work with people from China on a pretty regular basis.  My students have taught me a little Chinese and a little about the Chinese culture.  I have a lot of friends in China now and hope to venture there one day even if my company never sends me.  Some of my most recent students mentioned that I should move to China and teach English.  I said that I do not know Chinese well enough, and they said it doesn&#8217;t matter.  They said I would have no trouble finding a job teaching English and that I would learn Chinese fast enough.  What do you think?  Is there any truth to what they have told me?</p>
<p>Do you have any advice and/or suggestions?  Thanks.  Keep up the good writing.  I have bookmarked your site and am looking forward to showing it to my friend from Beijing.  Good luck with your studies, and have fun!</p>
<p>P.S. Kun&#8217;s site is also very good.  It reminds me of &#8220;Good, good study; day, day up.&#8221;  I used to know the pinyin by heart, but I can&#8217;t quite recall it now.  That&#8217;s my fault for not practicing.</p>
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		<title>By: jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello. just tripped over your website looking for a cheap room in harbin. only read a few of your thoughts cause i&#039;m in the middle of writing a sars paper, but i will read more once this fatty is complete. anyway, can i get some harbin travel advice? i&#039;m having trouble finding places using a computer and am about to resort to the phone. so, any places i should try first? i just want cheap and not too out of the way. is that too much to ask? i&#039;ll be there for six or seven days and don&#039;t have as much money as i thought; hong kong broke the bank. to all out there, happy new year. any help is greatly appreciated. cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello. just tripped over your website looking for a cheap room in harbin. only read a few of your thoughts cause i&#8217;m in the middle of writing a sars paper, but i will read more once this fatty is complete. anyway, can i get some harbin travel advice? i&#8217;m having trouble finding places using a computer and am about to resort to the phone. so, any places i should try first? i just want cheap and not too out of the way. is that too much to ask? i&#8217;ll be there for six or seven days and don&#8217;t have as much money as i thought; hong kong broke the bank. to all out there, happy new year. any help is greatly appreciated. cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I just re-read my comment up directly above... I can&#039;t type schitt! ugh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I just re-read my comment up directly above&#8230; I can&#8217;t type schitt! ugh&#8230;</p>
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