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		<title>By: politics</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/#comment-546</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2004 11:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello</description>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2004 12:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's not only pretty cool, it's VERY cool.

You're a lucky guy to be able to what you do, and I wish you the best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not only pretty cool, it&#8217;s VERY cool.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re a lucky guy to be able to what you do, and I wish you the best.</p>
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		<title>By: leowang</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>leowang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW : I want to start writing  my own blog in English in 2004 , i am 25 years old , is that too old for me to begin this adventure coz i know very little about computer , so anyone here can give me a hand ? thank you in advance .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW : I want to start writing  my own blog in English in 2004 , i am 25 years old , is that too old for me to begin this adventure coz i know very little about computer , so anyone here can give me a hand ? thank you in advance .</p>
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		<title>By: leowang</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/#comment-543</link>
		<dc:creator>leowang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2004 19:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Jen 
   
 I am very happy to see your reply , I am not a student but i was , I like the foreign teacher i had before , they are great teacher as well as great people , most of them came from a non-profit organisation called 'ELIC"(I think in Chinese is "&#32654;&#22269;&#33521;&#35821;&#23398;&#20250;&#8221; they arrange almost everything if anyone is qualified to come to china to be a ESL teacher , their website is WWW.ELIC.org. you can log on their website and might find something useful if you do make your decision , I personally know a officer from ELIC he is my good friend , he is from Ohio , He is the personnel officer who  is in charge of something related to the personnel stuff, and he has stayed in China for several years , and he is a real beaver  .i can tell you his eamil address if you feel necessary to talk some details with him , but i dont' want to tell you here , can you drop me a mail if you do need , my email is "wangwang108@sina.com,"  
  Now I Work only  my part time jobs in one of kind of middle city in China , i don't have full time job right now but i am looking forward to finding a job relate to English , i have taken a test called " International Chinese teacher certificate "( you probablyhaven't heared this test before " but you may ask Kun or the people who write this blog they may know more about this test than me , coz i am taking this test just for fun . 

  i am not pushing you to make your decision to come to China ,but i do want to tell you :China is a great place to live and to broaden your experience , it may change your life , but i still have one more suggestion for you :if you go to china to be a teacher , you 'd better choose a average city first i mean  not Beijing ,shanghai you know , they are all the same , like newyork london , etc . choose a small like the city  i live and work now ,  although it 's small but it 's still  very convenient , and the people their pace of  life usually are  slower than some big big cities ,besides it's more quiet !!  blue sky , in my city , i can smell the spring without stepping out my apartment , the foreign guest house most of my foreign teacher they live is a very old building i belive older than  my age . one thing all my foreign teacher they can't bear in China is " every morning they have to hear the same "melody "over and over and again . so every coin has the two sides ( what a cliche :), you will definetely enjoy the hospitality of Chinese people but maybe you can't bear us sometimes , but that's life all about 

ok that's all

again very nice to know you 
i am looking forward to hearing from you .

sincerely 

leowang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Jen </p>
<p> I am very happy to see your reply , I am not a student but i was , I like the foreign teacher i had before , they are great teacher as well as great people , most of them came from a non-profit organisation called &#8216;ELIC&#8221;(I think in Chinese is &#8220;&#32654;&#22269;&#33521;&#35821;&#23398;&#20250;&#8221; they arrange almost everything if anyone is qualified to come to china to be a ESL teacher , their website is <a href="http://WWW.ELIC.org" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/http://WWW.ELIC.org');" rel="nofollow">http://WWW.ELIC.org</a>. you can log on their website and might find something useful if you do make your decision , I personally know a officer from ELIC he is my good friend , he is from Ohio , He is the personnel officer who  is in charge of something related to the personnel stuff, and he has stayed in China for several years , and he is a real beaver  .i can tell you his eamil address if you feel necessary to talk some details with him , but i dont&#8217; want to tell you here , can you drop me a mail if you do need , my email is &#8220;wangwang108@sina.com,&#8221;<br />
  Now I Work only  my part time jobs in one of kind of middle city in China , i don&#8217;t have full time job right now but i am looking forward to finding a job relate to English , i have taken a test called &#8221; International Chinese teacher certificate &#8220;( you probablyhaven&#8217;t heared this test before &#8221; but you may ask Kun or the people who write this blog they may know more about this test than me , coz i am taking this test just for fun . </p>
<p>  i am not pushing you to make your decision to come to China ,but i do want to tell you :China is a great place to live and to broaden your experience , it may change your life , but i still have one more suggestion for you :if you go to china to be a teacher , you &#8216;d better choose a average city first i mean  not Beijing ,shanghai you know , they are all the same , like newyork london , etc . choose a small like the city  i live and work now ,  although it &#8217;s small but it &#8217;s still  very convenient , and the people their pace of  life usually are  slower than some big big cities ,besides it&#8217;s more quiet !!  blue sky , in my city , i can smell the spring without stepping out my apartment , the foreign guest house most of my foreign teacher they live is a very old building i belive older than  my age . one thing all my foreign teacher they can&#8217;t bear in China is &#8221; every morning they have to hear the same &#8220;melody &#8220;over and over and again . so every coin has the two sides ( what a cliche :), you will definetely enjoy the hospitality of Chinese people but maybe you can&#8217;t bear us sometimes , but that&#8217;s life all about </p>
<p>ok that&#8217;s all</p>
<p>again very nice to know you<br />
i am looking forward to hearing from you .</p>
<p>sincerely </p>
<p>leowang</p>
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		<title>By: 乌托邦 &#124; 感动中国</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>乌托邦 &#124; 感动中国</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;汗颜&lt;/strong&gt;

今天在网上看看外国人眼里的中国。发现汗颜~ 一个中文用得太纯熟了，赫赫《喜爱学中文的美国老外》。要是没有看到这句“我们三个美国男人都会讲中国话”，我还真不敢相信这是不是中�...
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<p>今天在网上看看外国人眼里的中国。发现汗颜~ 一个中文用得太纯熟了，赫赫《喜爱学中文的美国老外》。要是没有看到这句“我们三个美国男人都会讲中国话”，我还真不敢相信这是不是中�&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Leowang,

Thanks for your comment.  I will take it all into consideration.  It's a lot to think about, that's for sure.  I would feel more confident if I knew more Chinese.  I don't know if I can really be of any help to Chinese people who are trying to learn English.  I would only do it if I thought I could help people.  For me, that's what it's all about.  Of course, I also long to see my friends in China, but I would only teach there if I thought I could make a difference.

Thanks for your kind wishes.  If I do come over, I will let you know.

What do you do?  Are you a student?  I'd like to hear more about you.

Best Wishes,

Jen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Leowang,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  I will take it all into consideration.  It&#8217;s a lot to think about, that&#8217;s for sure.  I would feel more confident if I knew more Chinese.  I don&#8217;t know if I can really be of any help to Chinese people who are trying to learn English.  I would only do it if I thought I could help people.  For me, that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about.  Of course, I also long to see my friends in China, but I would only teach there if I thought I could make a difference.</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind wishes.  If I do come over, I will let you know.</p>
<p>What do you do?  Are you a student?  I&#8217;d like to hear more about you.</p>
<p>Best Wishes,</p>
<p>Jen</p>
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		<title>By: leowang</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>leowang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2004 19:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Jen,
  nice to know :you want to come to China , welcome , you know what ? as soon as you get off the airplane , one thing is good to know is you are minority , 

  I am a Chinese ,what if i come to states to teach chinese ? that's a good idea? probably not , but you can do that here i mean mainland China , I will NOT doubt your wish to be a teacher in China ,but i have to tell you one thing : not every foreigners can be a good teacher here , i have a teacher he is a brit, he taught us one phrase " as far as i am concerned ....." in the whole morning , but that 's insufferably fun to learn one thing from him he told us you can't say "as far as i am concerned in the intonation of ....you have to say it in a falling -ring tone , is that deadly funny ? 

   i 'd like to say something about teacher as a Chinese student here , if you cant' be a good teacher ,pls go out to find another job , teacher is different from other jobs in the earth , you might influence a person 's life by saying one sentence , maybe you don't even know that. 

  anyway , in my opinon , I like the foreign teacher who is not only funny but also can represent his orher country and culture , and one thing is indispensible , that's Tolerance , coz you are minority , not in your own country , be tolerant doesn't mean you have to put up with everything ,you can be very strict ,but meanwhile getting along with people around you , 

anyway ,good luck  and welcome to China , it's  a beautiful country , i am sure you will enjoy being here 

leowang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Jen,<br />
  nice to know :you want to come to China , welcome , you know what ? as soon as you get off the airplane , one thing is good to know is you are minority , </p>
<p>  I am a Chinese ,what if i come to states to teach chinese ? that&#8217;s a good idea? probably not , but you can do that here i mean mainland China , I will NOT doubt your wish to be a teacher in China ,but i have to tell you one thing : not every foreigners can be a good teacher here , i have a teacher he is a brit, he taught us one phrase &#8221; as far as i am concerned &#8230;..&#8221; in the whole morning , but that &#8217;s insufferably fun to learn one thing from him he told us you can&#8217;t say &#8220;as far as i am concerned in the intonation of &#8230;.you have to say it in a falling -ring tone , is that deadly funny ? </p>
<p>   i &#8216;d like to say something about teacher as a Chinese student here , if you cant&#8217; be a good teacher ,pls go out to find another job , teacher is different from other jobs in the earth , you might influence a person &#8217;s life by saying one sentence , maybe you don&#8217;t even know that. </p>
<p>  anyway , in my opinon , I like the foreign teacher who is not only funny but also can represent his orher country and culture , and one thing is indispensible , that&#8217;s Tolerance , coz you are minority , not in your own country , be tolerant doesn&#8217;t mean you have to put up with everything ,you can be very strict ,but meanwhile getting along with people around you , </p>
<p>anyway ,good luck  and welcome to China , it&#8217;s  a beautiful country , i am sure you will enjoy being here </p>
<p>leowang</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2003/12/22/feral-sinologues/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2004 09:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan,

Good job! Excellent writing!

I first discovered your site via a link from Andres Gentry's site; I wouldn't have found his site if I hadn't been searching the web for "Gongxi facai".  I was trying to find the proper way to convey happy new year wishes in Chinese.  A friend from Sinapore had mentioned something like "Gongxi facai", but I couldn't remember how to write it in pinyin, and I sure didn't know how to write it in Chinese characters.

Is this how the Chinese wish each other a happy new year?  If you would be so kind, please write it in pinyin with the right tones.  I cannot read Chinese characters.

I will not bore you with the long story now; mine is not nearly as interesting as yours.  I have a very good friend arriving (here in Houston) from Beijing tomorrow, and I would like to wish her a happy new year properly.  She is a native Chinese person, born somewhere in the province of He Nan.

I am a technical instructor and training coordinator of sorts at one of the well-known companies in the energy industry.  My job allows me to meet and work with people from China on a pretty regular basis.  My students have taught me a little Chinese and a little about the Chinese culture.  I have a lot of friends in China now and hope to venture there one day even if my company never sends me.  Some of my most recent students mentioned that I should move to China and teach English.  I said that I do not know Chinese well enough, and they said it doesn't matter.  They said I would have no trouble finding a job teaching English and that I would learn Chinese fast enough.  What do you think?  Is there any truth to what they have told me?

Do you have any advice and/or suggestions?  Thanks.  Keep up the good writing.  I have bookmarked your site and am looking forward to showing it to my friend from Beijing.  Good luck with your studies, and have fun!

P.S. Kun's site is also very good.  It reminds me of "Good, good study; day, day up."  I used to know the pinyin by heart, but I can't quite recall it now.  That's my fault for not practicing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan,</p>
<p>Good job! Excellent writing!</p>
<p>I first discovered your site via a link from Andres Gentry&#8217;s site; I wouldn&#8217;t have found his site if I hadn&#8217;t been searching the web for &#8220;Gongxi facai&#8221;.  I was trying to find the proper way to convey happy new year wishes in Chinese.  A friend from Sinapore had mentioned something like &#8220;Gongxi facai&#8221;, but I couldn&#8217;t remember how to write it in pinyin, and I sure didn&#8217;t know how to write it in Chinese characters.</p>
<p>Is this how the Chinese wish each other a happy new year?  If you would be so kind, please write it in pinyin with the right tones.  I cannot read Chinese characters.</p>
<p>I will not bore you with the long story now; mine is not nearly as interesting as yours.  I have a very good friend arriving (here in Houston) from Beijing tomorrow, and I would like to wish her a happy new year properly.  She is a native Chinese person, born somewhere in the province of He Nan.</p>
<p>I am a technical instructor and training coordinator of sorts at one of the well-known companies in the energy industry.  My job allows me to meet and work with people from China on a pretty regular basis.  My students have taught me a little Chinese and a little about the Chinese culture.  I have a lot of friends in China now and hope to venture there one day even if my company never sends me.  Some of my most recent students mentioned that I should move to China and teach English.  I said that I do not know Chinese well enough, and they said it doesn&#8217;t matter.  They said I would have no trouble finding a job teaching English and that I would learn Chinese fast enough.  What do you think?  Is there any truth to what they have told me?</p>
<p>Do you have any advice and/or suggestions?  Thanks.  Keep up the good writing.  I have bookmarked your site and am looking forward to showing it to my friend from Beijing.  Good luck with your studies, and have fun!</p>
<p>P.S. Kun&#8217;s site is also very good.  It reminds me of &#8220;Good, good study; day, day up.&#8221;  I used to know the pinyin by heart, but I can&#8217;t quite recall it now.  That&#8217;s my fault for not practicing.</p>
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		<title>By: jorge</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello. just tripped over your website looking for a cheap room in harbin. only read a few of your thoughts cause i'm in the middle of writing a sars paper, but i will read more once this fatty is complete. anyway, can i get some harbin travel advice? i'm having trouble finding places using a computer and am about to resort to the phone. so, any places i should try first? i just want cheap and not too out of the way. is that too much to ask? i'll be there for six or seven days and don't have as much money as i thought; hong kong broke the bank. to all out there, happy new year. any help is greatly appreciated. cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello. just tripped over your website looking for a cheap room in harbin. only read a few of your thoughts cause i&#8217;m in the middle of writing a sars paper, but i will read more once this fatty is complete. anyway, can i get some harbin travel advice? i&#8217;m having trouble finding places using a computer and am about to resort to the phone. so, any places i should try first? i just want cheap and not too out of the way. is that too much to ask? i&#8217;ll be there for six or seven days and don&#8217;t have as much money as i thought; hong kong broke the bank. to all out there, happy new year. any help is greatly appreciated. cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, I just re-read my comment up directly above... I can't type schitt! ugh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, I just re-read my comment up directly above&#8230; I can&#8217;t type schitt! ugh&#8230;</p>
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