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	<description>disoriented in the orient</description>
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		<title>By: donny</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2004/07/19/maodun/comment-page-1/#comment-681</link>
		<dc:creator>donny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 16:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i rather like the chinese bureaucracy.  other than a few total jerks, they are for the most part one of the most efficient if u follow the rules.

now india, on the other hand, must require that a person be a colossal prick before he (never she) can be hired for an official position.  an embassy dude yelled at me b/c i didn&#039;t bring a pen to the embassy to write my forms.  another official casually mentioned the &quot;fact&quot; that america has no culture.  and u gotta love that $20 entrance fee to the taj mahal for foreigners as opposed to the $1 fee for natives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i rather like the chinese bureaucracy.  other than a few total jerks, they are for the most part one of the most efficient if u follow the rules.</p>
<p>now india, on the other hand, must require that a person be a colossal prick before he (never she) can be hired for an official position.  an embassy dude yelled at me b/c i didn&#8217;t bring a pen to the embassy to write my forms.  another official casually mentioned the &#8220;fact&#8221; that america has no culture.  and u gotta love that $20 entrance fee to the taj mahal for foreigners as opposed to the $1 fee for natives.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Ji</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2004/07/19/maodun/comment-page-1/#comment-680</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Ji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2004 18:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus, that&#039;s insane. Makes me feel nervous about working back in China. Would I have to go through all these hassles as well one of these days? At least, everything is alright with you for the time being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus, that&#8217;s insane. Makes me feel nervous about working back in China. Would I have to go through all these hassles as well one of these days? At least, everything is alright with you for the time being.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2004/07/19/maodun/comment-page-1/#comment-679</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man you must have pissed someone off in a past life. i think i&#039;ve lucked out most of the time when it comes to these things, but my return in Sept will certainly be the test i.e. switching schools, returning on a re-entry Visa, limited time to get a new residence permit, etc.

I won&#039;t say more, I&#039;d like to keep my positive karma intact!

Cheers and may the PSB Gods shine on you.

BTW, seems the less Chinese you speak the easier things go. really, the more I improve the more questions i find myself having to answer, and hoops i have to jump through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man you must have pissed someone off in a past life. i think i&#8217;ve lucked out most of the time when it comes to these things, but my return in Sept will certainly be the test i.e. switching schools, returning on a re-entry Visa, limited time to get a new residence permit, etc.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t say more, I&#8217;d like to keep my positive karma intact!</p>
<p>Cheers and may the PSB Gods shine on you.</p>
<p>BTW, seems the less Chinese you speak the easier things go. really, the more I improve the more questions i find myself having to answer, and hoops i have to jump through.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2004/07/19/maodun/comment-page-1/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2004 14:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, I really enjoyed this story (but I do sympathize).  This is the China we know and love.

China&#039;s bureaucracy is a constant thorn in the side of foreigners that just want to EXIST in China, but in Beijing that &quot;thorn&quot; seems to take on stake-like proportions.  I&#039;m glad to live in Shanghai. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I really enjoyed this story (but I do sympathize).  This is the China we know and love.</p>
<p>China&#8217;s bureaucracy is a constant thorn in the side of foreigners that just want to EXIST in China, but in Beijing that &#8220;thorn&#8221; seems to take on stake-like proportions.  I&#8217;m glad to live in Shanghai. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Morris</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2004/07/19/maodun/comment-page-1/#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2004 08:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW. Crazy shit.

Wish I could have been there again to save ya. I&#039;ll be back at the beginning of August though, and have room for crashing in case you need to investigate Tianjin&#039;s offerings.

-Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW. Crazy shit.</p>
<p>Wish I could have been there again to save ya. I&#8217;ll be back at the beginning of August though, and have room for crashing in case you need to investigate Tianjin&#8217;s offerings.</p>
<p>-Adam</p>
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		<title>By: joe clark</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2004/07/19/maodun/comment-page-1/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator>joe clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 18:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brendan,
The first time I overstayed a visa (ROC) I figured the best thing to do was make myself obsequious while waiting for the new visa application, visit every day and check the progress. I have since realized that this only invites them to say &quot;you&#039;re missing this&quot; and &quot;don&#039;t you feel sorry for what you&#039;ve done&quot; and make the process difficult. Later I realized that it&#039;s better just to hand in the application and make it impossible for them to contact you. For instance, pay a visa agency to apply on my behalf (as I&#039;ve done with PRC and HK) or pay for the rush one-day service at the consulate and don&#039;t return until they&#039;re about to close the office (ROC). So far, I&#039;ve never had such a visa application turned down or delayed, though I must admit it&#039;s scary to actually try it. Once I got a tourist visa renewed in the PRC when I was really bending the law quite a bit, by pretending I didn&#039;t understand the police lady&#039;s question &quot;Why is your address in a Shenzhen office building, if you&#039;re a tourist?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brendan,<br />
The first time I overstayed a visa (ROC) I figured the best thing to do was make myself obsequious while waiting for the new visa application, visit every day and check the progress. I have since realized that this only invites them to say &#8220;you&#8217;re missing this&#8221; and &#8220;don&#8217;t you feel sorry for what you&#8217;ve done&#8221; and make the process difficult. Later I realized that it&#8217;s better just to hand in the application and make it impossible for them to contact you. For instance, pay a visa agency to apply on my behalf (as I&#8217;ve done with PRC and HK) or pay for the rush one-day service at the consulate and don&#8217;t return until they&#8217;re about to close the office (ROC). So far, I&#8217;ve never had such a visa application turned down or delayed, though I must admit it&#8217;s scary to actually try it. Once I got a tourist visa renewed in the PRC when I was really bending the law quite a bit, by pretending I didn&#8217;t understand the police lady&#8217;s question &#8220;Why is your address in a Shenzhen office building, if you&#8217;re a tourist?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://bokane.org/2004/07/19/maodun/comment-page-1/#comment-675</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why did your green card expire so soon? Mine is good until September...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did your green card expire so soon? Mine is good until September&#8230;</p>
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